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onsdag 11 mars 2015

85 cameras

What do they have to hide?

Many of us have heard claims of there being 85 cameras, which footage was taken by FBI, without releasing this footage. Supposedly they are from when AA77 hits Pentagon. So, why doesn't FBI release these videos? What do they have to hide? These are questions which have been repeated over and over in the past years.

I must admit that I didn't know which cameras these were or what they showed. I thought it was fair to ask them to be shown, as long as it would not mean any risk to the companies or organizations etc. who had the cameras. and of course it's really only "suspicious" if the footage from these cameras actually show something other than a plane hitting the Pentagon and the FBI withheld such information.

Information exists on these 85 videos, and several have been released

To my surprise, I saw a member of a Facebook-group I have about 9/11 post an archived link about these 85 videos (all are not from separate cameras). On the link, all 85 videos are listed with short information about each one. A caveat is that I did not count all of them to see that they were 85, but it seemed to be about 85 to me. Another caveat is that I cannot verify this information with another source, but the link shows documents in writing as pictures as well as the text with the information about each video.

If we assume that the information about the videos are correct, and that it is all 85 being written about on that link, then there really isn't much of a mystery there, and there is nothing of importance that we have not seen before, save for possibly one video or possibly group of images described at the end. That was the only one I have not seen myself at least. I don't know more information about that only video (or images) that shows something that I have not seen before. Would be interesting to know more about it. You can see the archived link about the 85 videos here.

I think it was the same member of my group (became unclear who had posted the first link in my group) who also posted 16 videos in a playlist on his youtube-channel. I do not know if all 85 videos are shown there, but I did see that the first youtube-link in that playlist appeared to be one video with copies just like it's described in the list over the 85 videos that one video was. To clarify, about 5 of the 85 videos are copies of another. I have not confirmed if it's the same one at this point though. It was one I had not seen before, but there was nothing new about the attack on that one.

You can see the playlist here, starting with the first video in the list.

What do the videos contain?

Turns out that several of the videos are not from the Pentagon, but from WTC actually. As I wrote above, some are copies (most are not). Many of them are tourist videos. Some are very short. Most of them show Pentagon after the attack has occured.

All of them were released as part of a FOIA request.

måndag 12 januari 2015

Pentagon-employee about the cameras

I have a group on Facebook and a member there had worked at the Pentagon in 2001.

He writes...

my experience comes from being a naval flight officer, in and around aviation for most of my 26 year US Navy active and reserve service, including duty at the Pentagon (transferring in Jan of 2001) with the Navy Command Center, a unit that lost over 30 civilians, officers and enlisted on 9/11.

That got me curious so I asked him about the cameras at the Pentagon that often comes up from truthers....

This is what he answered...

my take on the Pentagon surveillance cameras is as follows:

First, the reconstruction of that wedge was not 100% complete and as far as I know the entrance to that wedge was not open. I'm not even certain those roof top cameras were operational at that point since it was still a construction access area and the helipad was not being used at that time. 

Second, in my opinion any cameras on that wedge would have been looking at the immediate areas adjacent to the building, not up the hill toward the Navy Annex. 

I think this might help straighten out this question mark about the Pentagon cameras, or partially does that at least...

I did not know this myself and I thought I'd share it with you.


The truth shall set you free they say...