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måndag 21 maj 2018

Undeniable proof demolitions were not used in the twin towers?

Twin tower floor connectors


In a recent debate about the Twin towers, I recalled that NIST wrote that all connectors (I thought bolts) below impact were pointing downward. This clearly shows something pressed on them downward and bent them. A demolition would not have done that. Some might get twisted, but they wouldn't in that case all be twisted downward.

To me, who is not an expert, this is an undeniable proof that there was no demolition.

More specific and where to find the info yourself


To be specific, it was so-called floor truss connectors that pointed downwards. As far as I can understand, these are the "plates" that connect to the outer columns and that the floors then rest on. You can, if you want, read about these floor truss connectors in NIST NCSTAR 1-3 here . That will take you to the whole PDF so it might take you some time to load. Then you can go to section 3.5.3 on page 117 of that report. Some truss connectors were missing.

Page 119, the summary, also brings this up.

Caveat, and important to bring up, is that NIST thinks there are too few samples and too random to see a pattern. They are the experts and I acknowledge that. but in the summary, you can see that 93% of the truss connectors in WTC1, and 88% of the truss connectors in WTC2 were pointing downwards or missing.

NIST mentions in the summary (last sentence) that fracture indicate overloading during collapse.

Regarding the bolts, most of those they found had broken off or failed. I mention this, because some claim the bolts were very strong. Section E.7 also mentions that the major failure mechanism was fracture of the bolts. Page 18's second paragraph mentions breaking of the bolts also. Page 108 brings up different bolt failures too.
Section 3.4.4 on page 114, 2nd paragraph, mentions how the Building Performance Assessment Team took pictures of hundreds of columns and panels that had failed at the bolts during collapse. The summary in section 3.4.5 on the same page the major failure mechanism was failure of the bolts even. Section 7.6, page 2.8.2, 2nd paragraph, says the same about major failure mechanism.

Explosive scenario


Again, imagine an explosive scenario. I imagine an explosion similar to a ball of pressure (and more). The pressure from such an explosion I thus imagine would not only push down on such floor truss connectors, or from one direction.

Also, those that espouse the demolition theory say the demolition basically traveled down under the collapse to make the collapse happen.

Summary

So, again, I think these floor truss connectors basically prove there was no demilition by planted explosives. or, at least, I don't see how to reconsile the 2 possibilities. Again, I am no expert, so I could for sure be wrong about this.

Also, there are of course other indicators it wasn't a demolition by explosives like the fact that WTC2 fell first and the lack of any discernible sounds that match those of controlled demolitions.

lördag 7 mars 2015

Israel, mural truck and Odigo-warnings, the truth

Mural truck

So, we've heard many many times about a truck with supposedly painted on it a mural showing a plane diving into New York City and exploding. Supposedly 2 Israelis drove this van. Some think it even exploded, carrying explosives. Hence, Israel is seen as a huge suspect in 9/11 by some(often people with a certain "bent" so to speak).

So, what's up with all that?

Well, according to this document about "Lessons learned in the 9-11 terrorist attacks", MTI report 02-06, it says among other things that the truck was "rented to a group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not speak English". It does not say that they were (or were not) Israeli.

They called out the bomb squad and detained the occupants while searching the truck.

However, they concluded something which truthers never mention, namely that "The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck."! You can search the document linked above for "delivery truck" and you can see the paragraph for yourself.

That's it. No explosion, no bombs, uncertain if they were Israelis or not. Nothing there.


Odigo-warnings

2 workers at Odigo, an Israeli messaging service from my understanding, received a warning of the 9/11-attacks 2 hours prior to the attacks. They were based in USA, in New York. Also had an office in Israel.

This warning was seen by some as Israel having pre-knowledge, warning their workers. So, Israel sort of got the blame for this too. or, it was just used to make it seem like several knew in advance, why didn't they stop it etc..

Rarely people say what I wrote above, that they got the warning 2 hours prior to the WTC attack. Most of the time, it's said that they got a warning and that it was an Israeli company.

Nor is it usually said that these workers got this message from people they didn't know. This messaging service let people who don't know you message you.

Nor do people usually bring up that the company cooperated with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI in trying to find out who the senders were as you can read here.

For all we know, it could have been AQ, or AQ-affiliated people who wanted to scare Israelis this way, but that's speculation on my behalf. Regardless, it does not say that Israelis or this company was involved.


Final words

Just wanted to spread this information about these 2 events. The information is out there, but may be sort of "buried" to some extent so I thought I'd try to help bring it to the fore so it could be straightened out a bit. Let's not blame Israelis, Israel, or Jews unfairly.

torsdag 15 januari 2015

Question everything? OK truthers, here are some questions...

9/11 Truthers often say "question everything". So, in that spirit we can pose some questions to the truthers themselves....

Question 1:

Why bother setting up explosives in the twin towers when hijacking planes and crashing them into US buildings is a good enough reason to go to a war?

Question 2:

Why did no media organization report trucks driving in with plane wreckage at the Pentagon after the plane had crashed into it (assuming it was no plane and they wanted to make it appear as if it were)?

Question 3:

Why bother crashing planes into buildings first, but then send a missile into the Pentagon? A huge building full with people one might expect would be able to tell the difference between a missile and a plane.
Question 4:

Why had no conspirator, other than AQ, come out and said they did this?

Question 5:

Why did so many countries and also NSA warn about a coming, big terror attack against USA by AQ prior to 9/11? For example, John Kerry was not surprised on 9/11 as he had seen the warnings. Richard Clarke had seen them too.
Question 6:

Why is Alex Jones still on the air and have so much money? If there was a huge international organization intent on world domination that was so evil that it carried out 9/11, it sure would not allow someone like Alex Jones running around bullhorning them, agitating against them one would think.

There are many other questions, but I'll stop here. The first 2 questions were not posed by me first, but by 2 members of my FB-group "9/11 Conspiracy Theories are an Inside Job!"