Israel, mural truck and Odigo-warnings, the truth

Mural truck

So, we've heard many many times about a truck with supposedly painted on it a mural showing a plane diving into New York City and exploding. Supposedly 2 Israelis drove this van. Some think it even exploded, carrying explosives. Hence, Israel is seen as a huge suspect in 9/11 by some(often people with a certain "bent" so to speak).

So, what's up with all that?

Well, according to this document about "Lessons learned in the 9-11 terrorist attacks", MTI report 02-06, it says among other things that the truck was "rented to a group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not speak English". It does not say that they were (or were not) Israeli.

They called out the bomb squad and detained the occupants while searching the truck.

However, they concluded something which truthers never mention, namely that "The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck."! You can search the document linked above for "delivery truck" and you can see the paragraph for yourself.

That's it. No explosion, no bombs, uncertain if they were Israelis or not. Nothing there.


Odigo-warnings

2 workers at Odigo, an Israeli messaging service from my understanding, received a warning of the 9/11-attacks 2 hours prior to the attacks. They were based in USA, in New York. Also had an office in Israel.

This warning was seen by some as Israel having pre-knowledge, warning their workers. So, Israel sort of got the blame for this too. or, it was just used to make it seem like several knew in advance, why didn't they stop it etc..

Rarely people say what I wrote above, that they got the warning 2 hours prior to the WTC attack. Most of the time, it's said that they got a warning and that it was an Israeli company.

Nor is it usually said that these workers got this message from people they didn't know. This messaging service let people who don't know you message you.

Nor do people usually bring up that the company cooperated with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI in trying to find out who the senders were as you can read here.

For all we know, it could have been AQ, or AQ-affiliated people who wanted to scare Israelis this way, but that's speculation on my behalf. Regardless, it does not say that Israelis or this company was involved.


Final words

Just wanted to spread this information about these 2 events. The information is out there, but may be sort of "buried" to some extent so I thought I'd try to help bring it to the fore so it could be straightened out a bit. Let's not blame Israelis, Israel, or Jews unfairly.

Pentagon eyewitnesses (videos)

The other day I saw several youtube-links to witnesses of the plane crashing into the Pentagon in a group I have on FB so I thought I'd make a blog-post about them.

Especially 3 of them were extra interesting, but they're all good. They are 6 in total and I'll also add a playlist to that.

I'll post the most interesting ones last. All clips are short, 1-3 minutes. They come from TV-stations so may be taken down in the future at some point, but I will take a chance and post links to them any way.

Will post direct links for now. Meant to post embedded videos of these videos, but Blogger cannot find the videos.

2 mins, Joel Sucherman:

(link: Pentagon Plane Crash Witness Joel Sucherman, Ch. 9)

2 mins, Harry Gold:

(link: Pentagon Plane Crash Witness Harry Gold)

2 mins, Capten Steve McCoy:

(link: Pentagon Plane Crash Witness Capt. Steve McCoy)


Now comes the most interesting witnesses.

3 mins, firefighter Alan Wallace who was very close to the impact hiding under a car:

(link: Pentagon Plane Crash Witness Alan Wallace)

3 mins, pilot Tim Timmerman, identified the plane as a 757 and an American Airlines plane:

(link: Pentagon Plane Crash Witness Tim Timmerman C*N*N)

1 minute, Dawn Vignola who could also identify the plane as a 757 and American Airlines plane through the male living with her:

(link: Pentagon Plane Crash Witness Dawn Vignola)


In addition to these 6 videos, there is also a playlist of 5 videos of Pentagon witnesses that you can get to by clicking this. 4 of the videos are 9-10 mins long and the 5th is 4 mins long.


There are more witnesses than these, but they help to get an idea.

Question everything? OK truthers, here are some questions...

9/11 Truthers often say "question everything". So, in that spirit we can pose some questions to the truthers themselves....

Question 1:

Why bother setting up explosives in the twin towers when hijacking planes and crashing them into US buildings is a good enough reason to go to a war?

Question 2:

Why did no media organization report trucks driving in with plane wreckage at the Pentagon after the plane had crashed into it (assuming it was no plane and they wanted to make it appear as if it were)?

Question 3:

Why bother crashing planes into buildings first, but then send a missile into the Pentagon? A huge building full with people one might expect would be able to tell the difference between a missile and a plane.

Question 4:

Why had no conspirator, other than AQ, come out and said they did this?

Question 5:

Why did so many countries and also NSA warn about a coming, big terror attack against USA by AQ prior to 9/11? For example, John Kerry was not surprised on 9/11 as he had seen the warnings. Richard Clarke had seen them too.

Question 6:

Why is Alex Jones still on the air and have so much money? If there was a huge international organization intent on world domination that was so evil that it carried out 9/11, it sure would not allow someone like Alex Jones running around bullhorning them, agitating against them one would think.

There are many other questions, but I'll stop here. The first 2 questions were not posed by me first, but by 2 members of my FB-group "9/11 Conspiracy Theories are an Inside Job!"

Osama positively ID'd in confession video

In late 2001 a video of Osama bin Laden came out where he talked about 9/11 together with others. Osama talked about his surprise etc. in that video. and he seemed to openly show that he and AQ planned it.

Truthers have often said this video is "faked". Osama appears more "chubby" and other "problems" in the minds of truthers.

However, BBC had a show called "Conspiracy files" several years ago. These "conspiracy files" were 1 hour long each and on a specific topic, not only about 9/11. One was about Oklahoma, one about David Kelly etc.. but there was one about Osama and whether he was alive or not (as it had often been claimed that he was dead).

In that program, they included an expert who took a still picture of Osama from a known video of him from 1998 and then they faded from a still picture from the "confession" video to that known picture of him in front of our eyes, and it's a perfect match! See for yourselves:
These clips of this BBC-show are often removed as it's copyright-protected, so maybe this 3-minute clip with the identification of Osama will be removed also, but I wrote the name of the show so you can look it up for yourselves above.

[here was before a video, which apparently was removed]

It's as clear as it can be.

Pentagon-employee about the cameras

I have a group on Facebook and a member there had worked at the Pentagon in 2001.

He writes...

my experience comes from being a naval flight officer, in and around aviation for most of my 26 year US Navy active and reserve service, including duty at the Pentagon (transferring in Jan of 2001) with the Navy Command Center, a unit that lost over 30 civilians, officers and enlisted on 9/11.

That got me curious so I asked him about the cameras at the Pentagon that often comes up from truthers....

This is what he answered...

my take on the Pentagon surveillance cameras is as follows:

First, the reconstruction of that wedge was not 100% complete and as far as I know the entrance to that wedge was not open. I'm not even certain those roof top cameras were operational at that point since it was still a construction access area and the helipad was not being used at that time. 

Second, in my opinion any cameras on that wedge would have been looking at the immediate areas adjacent to the building, not up the hill toward the Navy Annex. 

I think this might help straighten out this question mark about the Pentagon cameras, or partially does that at least...

I did not know this myself and I thought I'd share it with you.


The truth shall set you free they say...

New investigation? Number of pages spent on investigation.

So far, there have been several investigations into 9/11, both as a whole and in parts.

Joint Inquiry

"The Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001" was released in December 2002. It comprised 832 pages according to Wikipedia.

9/11 commission

The 9/11 Commission Report consists of 541 pages if you include the notes. Link to the official (but frozen) commission site can be found here.

NIST's investigations

NIST published reports on both the twin towers, WTC1 and WTC2, but also a report on WTC7. A list of all their final reports on these 3 buildings can be found here.

NIST's report on the twin towers was released in September 2005.

NIST NCSTAR 1-1 is 185 pages excl. appendices. NIST NCSTAR 1-1A is 130 pages long
N.N. 1-1B is 47 pages. N.N. 1-1C is 121 pages. N.N. 1-1D is 131 pages. N.N. 1-1E is 7 pages.
N.N. 1-1F is 5 pages. N.N. 1-1G is 33 pages. N.N. 1-1H is 59 pages. N.N. 1-1I is 17 pages.
N.N. 1-1J is 49 pages. N.N. in total thereby comprises 784 pages.

NIST NCSTAR 1-2 is 302 pages long (appendices is another 37 pages, but do not have to count them). N.N. 1-2A is 149 pages (with 42 pages for the appendices). N.N. 1-2B is 393 pages long. In total 844 pages.

NIST NCSTAR 1-3 is 134 pages. N.N. 1-3A is another 47 pages. N.N. 1-3B is 57 pages long. N.N. 1-3C: 287 pages (with 186 pages appendices!). N.N. 1-3D: 163 pages (110+ pages appendices). N.N. 1-3E: 125 pages. In total: 813 pages.

NIST NCSTAR 1-4: 99 pages. N.N. 1-4A: 15 pages (same amount for appendices). N.N. 1-4B: 173 pages. N.N. 1-4C: 109 pages. N.N. 1-4D: 113 pages. In total: 509 pages.

NIST NCSTAR 1-5: 184 pages. N.N. 1-5A: 417 pages (with 13 appendices comprising 544 pages!). N.N. 1-5B: 231 pages. N.N. 1-5C: 71 pages. N.N. 1-5D: 79 pages. N.N. 1-5E: 101 pages. N.N. 1-5F: 117 pages. N.N. 1-5G: 271 pages. In total: 1471 pages!

NIST NCSTAR 1-6: 338 pages. N.N. 1-6A: 123 pages (130 pages appendicies). N.N. 1-6B: 107 pages. N.N. 1-6C: 203 pages. N.N. 1-6D: 331 pages. In total: 1102 pages!

NIST NCSTAR 1-7: 171 pages. N.N. 1-7A: 29 pages. N.N. 1-7B: 21 pages. In total: 221

NIST NCSTAR 1-8: 179 pages (12 appendicies!).


On the 20th of November 2008 came the final reports on WTC 7. The reports were NIST NCSTAR 1A (130 pages), NIST NCSTAR 1-9 (731 pages) and NIST NCSTAR 1-9A (121 pages), This gives a total of 982 pages.

Can see a list of all the NIST final reports here[same as above]. To see all NIST's publications about the WTC disaster, can go to this link. To see what the goals and objectives with NIST's investigation, go here.

FEMA

FEMA published their "World Trade Center Building Performance Study" in September 2002. It consists of 8 Chapter and 9 Appendices as can be seen here. It is 170 pages (251 pages if one includes appendices).

Conclusion

The investigations have comprised a grand total 8,448 pages! This "ought" to be enough...

Haaretz' unfortunate anti-Bibi cartoon that plays into some truther's hands...

Israeli left-leaning news site Haaretz posted a cartoon directed against Benjamin "Bibi" Nethanyahu on the 30th of Oct 2014 and his handling of US-Israeli relations.

The cartoon, which sees the cartoon "Bibi" drive an airplane into a cartoon skyscraper with a US flag on top, unfortunately plays into the roughly 50% among truthers that blame Israel or Jews for 9/11, or possibly "zionists".

There is no real evidence to prove Jewish nor Israeli (nor Zionist) involvement into 9/11. There are many claims of evidence, but they don't prove any actual guilt concerning the events themselves.

Instead, the ones who admitted to these acts of terrorism, said beforehand that they would attack USA, that foreign intelligences (and NSA) picked up would attack USA were anti-Israeli at least (one can read Osama and others in AQ attacking Israel over and over. Whether they were/are anti-semitic is not clear to me.

The cartoon itself can be seen here:

The link to the twitter of Haaretz with the cartoon can be found here .

The cartoonist who made the cartoon explains himself and what he meant here : 

Haaretz cartoonist: I was mocking Netanyahu's handling of U.S.-Israeli relations

I saw a link from a "white nationalist" website that posted this cartoon only the day after and of course asking if "Israel admitted to 9/11"... So, I thought I'd try to post this to maybe help clear this out.